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Advice on traveling with swing couples

We’re going to head to Hedo at some point. We’ve had a number of couples we know, ask that we go with them. In the past year we’ve done three extended (overnight/weekend) stays with swing friends and in two cases there was some experiences that we really didn’t enjoy..some drama came out. Since it’s our only experience with spending a good bit of time with couples we’re a little reluctant to commit to goign to Hedo for 7 days with a couple that we know. And perhaps even with vanilla friends you may encounter the “really too close” feeling.

The plus side in going with friends is that you have a home base. The down side is that you might be “stuck” at home base…lol.

I realize there’s no right answer, but just looking for other peoples experiences in traveling with swing couples that you know.

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“Don’t hit me…” A funny story (I swear)

Last weekend Mrs. H and I were at a meet-n-greet at a local club. We met many wonderful people, had a great time, even got the furniture squeaking(though only with each other..). As the night went on, Mrs. H and I were heading to the bathrooms to get rid of a few margaritas when I felt a tap on my arm. I turned, and there stood a young, thinly-built, African American man. He mumbled something to me which I didn’t hear over the music, so he repeated himself…
” Don’t hit me…. But how would you like it if I ate your wife’s pussy in front of you..?”
The question took me aback, and I was impressed by his boldness, if not his tact. Had this been at Wal-Mart, not a local swinger’s club, I would have flattened him. As it was, questions like this were to be expected, if not exactly smoothly delivered..
After a moment I answered that we don’t play with single men, but thanks..
” OK, I just thought I’d ask. Don’t hit me for asking, OK?”
I grinned my biggest grin, told him everything was fine, and that I understood, as Mrs. H is a beautiful woman. He agreed, and we both stood there, staring at her for a few moments. I rejoined Mrs. H on our way to the restrooms, and the rest of the night went off just fine.
I had to give it to the guy, approaching a 6ft 1in, 260lb Native American guy, and asking him such an abrupt question took a lot of balls!! Maybe his directness has worked for him in the past, maybe he’s new to the whole lifestyle, I don’t know….
See, I told you it was funny!!!

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How would you react to the following

I could not think of a good concise title, but I’ll curious how much “drama” (no matter how small) you are willing to take.

We’ve been swinging for a little over a year, probably been with about 16 couples. For the most part we’ve never encountered any issues. There’s been a few were we didn’t want to do a repeat performance but mostly due to the encounter just being ok.

Last April we met a couple though mutual friends, at a house party. We hit it off well and played that evening. They live about 5+ hours away so we don’t see them too often. Last June we invited them down to our house to spend the weekend. We have a fun time, playing Friday & Saturday.

We’ve been trying since then to get together but things just have not worked out, until this past weekend we met them at a lifestyle club on Friday night. We then spent Saturday evening at a mountain cabin. This was 4 hours from our house.

Friday night we played at the club…we all had a good time. My play partner had 3 orgasms. On Saturday, I (the male) was tired..long drive, some wine, up late the night before, etc. So when play time came that evening I was not bringing my A game. I was able to maintain an erection for a while, but got tired. My play partner does seem to find it hard to have an orgasm and can only have one in specific position, reverse cowgirl with a lot of movement. I did fine the night before but could not keep it “up” for the duration. I did finger her and she got off that way. She then performed oral sex on me and I was enjoying it..semi-hard but on my way to cumming. In the middle of that she left saying she needs more and went to her husband to have him do her. But he was just finishing up with my wife, as she still interrupted them (they were in the living room, us in one of the cabin bedrooms).

So it was a very strange situation. I felt bad as I could not perform as well as I would have liked. My wife was feeling a little odd due to the interuption. We did make a little lite of the situation as I have just turned 50 and I said..I’m 50 now..bound to happen.

The next morning at breakfast things were fine, but seemed a little strained. My wife talked the husband from the other couple today on the phone and he thought that his wife was not that happy that we were finished but they were still playing. (I’m not sure if that was his take on the situation or if he and his wife talked about it).

Another fact is that this couple has been swinging for a long time, not newbies.

Sorry for the long story..lol…but I’m just not happy with the situation. I’m just not sure, if we get together again, I’m going to be into really into the play session due to what happened. I’m not really upset about just, just a nagging thing. Snd I know we are don’t take one for the team, but my wife really enjoys the male half of the other couple.

I guess I’m looking for opinions on what you would do in this situation.

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Played alone, now the other female wants an apology because I didn’t know their rules

Hi Y’all,
Here we go again. I went to a party Saturday night. Laurie couldn’t be with me. She had family obligations out of state. With both our schedules being so busy this is a problem we have faced before. If one of us can’t be home for the party weekend, AND it’s an crowd we know and trust, AND we both agree before hand, then we’re free to go have fun. Having satisfied those requirements I went by myself.
At the party was a couple we’ve known since we’ve been in the lifestyle. I’ve never had the chance to play with the lady. She’s had some nusance health troubles and hasn’t gotten naked at a party in a long time. Her husband has taken Laurie up to a play room a time or two though. I didn’t go up there with them. They were within earshot and I trusted him so I didn’t feel the need to supervise.
As Saturday evening got going really good I went upstairs with her, her husband, and another lady. It started with the two girls playing and us guys taking pictures. (Great pics by the way.)
After a while the other guy put the camera away and started playing with the other lady. I got busy with the other guys wife. She didn’t object. She made happy noises as it was going on. She cheerfully co-operated with my requests to change positions and such. It seemed to me that everybody was having a good time.
I get a call from the guy today telling me that I need to apologise to her. She is upset. They have a rule that they only play with couples and since Laurie wasn’t there that means I was a single and therefore out of bounds.
I AM going to apologise to her. If she’s not happy about what happened then I’m not happy about it either. This is supposed to be fun, not upsetting.
I mentioned to the husband that if she’d given even the slightest sign that she wasn’t happy with the situation I would have stopped immediatly. I’m no rapist. A woman does not even need to tell me no. An apethetic responce will send me looking for someone who is more interested in my attention.
He said she wont say no, It’s his job to enforce their agreed upon rules.
I’m completely at a loss as to how I was supposed to know that she was not ok with this. I have considered them friends for a while. We’ve spent time with them in a non-sexual context. While I was laid up from my big surgery she was one of the internet chat buddies who kept me company. We’ve joked about me dragging her off into the bushes.
I’ve even played with her in a soft swing kind of way from time to time. It never went any further than that untill Saturday because of external circumstances. The first time I was recovering from major abdominal surgery and wasn’t capable of anything vigorous. The second time we were about to have intercourse but someone came into the playroom that Laurie found so objectionable that she threw me the “We’re leaving NOW” hand signal.
Am I missing some warning sign that I should have seen? Is this odd? Can I expect this sort of drama on a regular basis? Laurie and I both just want to have fun but lately we feel like we’re trapped in a soap opera.
My first reaction to how to deal with this is to give her the apoligy she wants and be politely distant toward them in the future. Decline all invitations to spend time with either of them be it in a sexual or non-sexual context. I just don’t want to do something like that out of ill temper over it though.
What do you think?

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You can’t handle the truth (or dare!)

Okay, I’ll be hosting a house party shortly. First once I’ve ever done, so I’m a slightly nervous.

Anyway, I’m trying to figure out some ice-breaker games and I’ve been trolling this section of SB. I’ve come across with some great ideas.

But I want to also use the ol’ classic, “Truth of Dare”. I’ve come across some threads with some suggestions, but I was wondering if anybody had any more. Do you have any ideas for either “Truths” or “Dares”? If so, please share them. I sure can use the help.

Thanks!

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Do you become jealous when a act is performed that you will not do?

We have been in the life-style for some time now. We both have had time to get over our insecurities and jealousies. Now and then, I notice that the green eyed monster still shows it’s ugly head. It’s usually when a girl will swollow his cum. I will not do that for him because I find it disgusting. You would think that I would be happy that I did not have to do it and be happy that he found someone to do that for him since it’s something I would never do. So why the jealousy? Do you become jealous when someone will do an act that you will not perform?

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She can play without me playing

We have been in the LS for about a year. Well, I should say she has been in, but I have never played. There are several reasons for this, but the main ones are my age and my size. I have adjusted to the fact that I will probably never play, but cannot convince my wife that it is perfectly ok for her to play. She tells me that she cannot have fun if I am not having fun. I tell her that I am enjoying the social side of swinging and that she should go ahead and enjoy the opportunities available to her. She still insists on trying to get couples that she likes, to play with US. This isn’t working because she is 20 years younger than me and only likes playing with a younger crowd. She wants me to do MFM’s, but I can’t get excited doing them. I have told her I am willing to watch her have fun, but she says I won’t really enjoy it. How do I convince my wife that it is perfectly ok for her to play when I am not playing?

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Is Porn-Style Sex the Lifestyle Norm?

Hello,

We’ve been in the lifestyle for about a year. We’ve really enjoyed it, and it’s changed our lives for the better in countless ways. However, we’re having some issues with the style of sex that lifestylers seem to want and expect from us. Perhaps we’re a little vanilla in our own right, but neither of us have experienced the type of techniques as we have with the couples we’ve met in the lifestyle.

After talking about it this morning, we thought that we would post this question to the swingersboard community and see if what we’re experiencing is typical of swingers in general, typical of swingers in our area, or just a run of bad luck on our parts.

Let me start by saying we’re not judging anyone’s style or technique. We fully understand that everyone has their way of doing things and that they do what they enjoy. It could be that lifestylers tend like it one way, and it’s just not our thing. Please understand, we’re also not saying EVERYONE does what I’m going to be describing, but it has been the most common technique.

I’ll get to the meat of things: We’ve been with about 15 couples in the past 11 months. It seems that the vast majority of the people we’ve been with like a faster style of sex. The best way to describe it is to compare it to what you would see in pornos. Go fast, go hard, and pound her until she’s sore.

We’re both 40 and have both been with our share of partners. We both think we were good lovers and neither of us ever had any complaints. At the same time, neither of us had really experienced anything like this in the vanilla world. We both tend to prefer slower and sensual style of sex — not that there’s not a place for going faster on occasion, but it was never like it is in the lifestyle — where I’ve had women pace me (moving my hips) at a quick clip from literally the first thrust.

Mrs. O’swinger always felt she gave a good BJ, but the guys she’s run into in the LS seem to want to (as she describes it) “f*** her face” — thrusting quickly in and out of her mouth. She doesn’t really care for that.

It’s all just a little too much for us. It’s too fast and not very sensual. We find it animalistic and impersonal. We both feel a little out of our element.

So, here’s what we want to know: Is this the norm? Do you find that this is what most LS’ers want as well? Is this what you enjoy?

We are NOT looking for advice on finding compatible couples. This is the first step in doing exactly that. We just want to get a handle on how common this is so we know how to approach getting what we want. If we hear that this is the preferred style of sex in the LS, we’ll handle things one way; if we find it’s just been a run of bad luck on our part, we’ll handle it another.

Thanks for the input!